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U0165 — Lost Communication Hvac Control Module Rear

Generic OBD-II · all makesNetwork / communication

U0165 signals that the vehicle's network has detected a loss of communication from the rear HVAC control module. The PCM has identified that it is not receiving messages from this module.

Symptoms

What causes it — most likely first

1. Faulty rear HVAC control module

The module's internal circuitry or temperature sensors can fail, causing it to stop transmitting messages on the CAN bus.

2. Damaged wiring or connector

Corrosion, loose pins, or broken wires between the module and the vehicle network can interrupt communication.

3. Blown fuse or power loss

If the fuse supplying power to the module opens, the module cannot send any signals.

4. CAN bus network issue

A short to ground, voltage spike, or overall bus fault can cause multiple modules to appear offline, including the rear HVAC module.

5. Faulty powertrain control module (PCM)

PCM failure is uncommon; it would only be considered after all other possibilities are ruled out.

How it's diagnosed

  1. Check the fuse for the rear HVAC control module and replace if blown
  2. Inspect the wiring harness and connector for corrosion, damage, or loose pins
  3. Measure CAN bus voltage and continuity to confirm network integrity
  4. Use a scan tool to query the rear HVAC module and verify if it responds
  5. Replace or repair the faulty component identified in the previous steps

Code facts & related codes

SystemNetwork / communication
StandardizationSAE generic — identical on every make

Frequently asked

Can I fix U0165 by replacing the PCM?

Replacing the PCM is rarely necessary; the issue is usually the rear HVAC module, its wiring, or a fuse.

Is a blown fuse a common cause of this code?

Yes, a blown fuse that supplies power to the rear HVAC module can prevent it from communicating on the network.

Do I need to replace the entire HVAC system if the module fails?

No, only the specific rear HVAC control module or its wiring needs repair; the rest of the HVAC system can remain unchanged.

How long does diagnosing U0165 typically take?

Diagnosis usually requires 1–2 hours to inspect wiring, check fuses, and test module communication.